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Sotiris Rex's avatar

The “noble savage” is a concept invented by the self-righteously faux-guilty, the sanctimoniously sympathetic, the hypocrites and moralists. The “noble savage” myth is a condescending insult to savages.

Hrafn King's avatar

Lol, go evangelize your childish religion elsewhere. Every comment you've ever made here has been a great show, peacocking yourself and your supposed moral superiority.

I do not oppose voluntaryism for individuals who want to be monks in this life, but for the real world, which you obviously are blind to, NOBODY HAS FREE WILL. You believe your thoughts are your own, but your indoctrination has been lifelong and delivered by interactive mediums, social conditions, and more importantly technologies that the conscious mind doesn't notice at all.

Your hyperindividualism is the perfect Trojan horse for enemies of humanity to enforce their will. You will NEVER get people to do anything worthwhile under a banner of hyperindivodualistic voluntaryism... only ever words and words and words and words.

Wastelands of mental space for unrealistic goals of idealistic utopia.

Nonsense.

Evangelize your religion elsewhere.

Everything Voluntary Jack's avatar

Rare to find another writer interested in freedom on my track on reporting on the “Ignoble Savage”.

Free Friends Forum 43: Anthro-Apology—Cultural Relativism & the Need To Believe in Primitivism Over Civilization

What Kind of Intellectuals Need to Believe in the “Noble Savage” and Why?

Everything Voluntary Jack, May 10, 2025

https://responsiblyfree.substack.com/p/free-friends-forum-43-anthro-apologycultural

However, I disagree with your Statist assumption and your confused terminology of “stealing” and “conquering”.

“The European did not steal the land. They conquered the land.”

As if that mattered. Both the native American Indians and the Europeans were at varying times conquerors and conquered. Both groups used first physical force to get what they wanted throwing the Non-Aggression Principle NAP into their campfires along with bodies.

Whether you name their initiated violence stealing or conquering is beside the main moral issue which is the disregard of the NAP.

So neither are to be excused seen through the lense of history viewed by the Voluntaryist.

Constitutions and their amendments being “Law” put in place by immoral governments are not moral and a person does not have a “right” by it being granted to him by whatever conqueror is putting that forth.

It seems you are a member of some political party, I gather in Canada?

Hopefully we can persuade you to abandon immoral politicks and use only your own blood peacefully, voluntarily?

And final disagreement: Freedom is not a duty, it is a responsibility. Duty comes from the collective shackled with guilt and shame. Responsibility is one side of the coin whose other side is Freedom; only together is that most valuable commodity morally spendable.

Join our The Philosophy of Responsible Freedom on the weekends and bring your mind to tumble with ours.

https://responsiblyfree.substack.com/p/the-philosophy-of-responsible-freedom

I leave you with my Manifesto of Responsible Freedom:

A specter has been haunting Human Consciousness –

The specter of Parental Authority as Gods and Governments.

Adulterated Adults of the world, grow up!

You have everything to gain by governing yourselves.

Abandon your obsolete and parasitic Gods and Governments!

Create and freely trade your unique worth and value!

From each according to his Freedom,

To each according to his Responsibility.

Email me to connect, Jack in New Zealand: themesofjack@gmail.com

Hrafn King's avatar

Voluntaryism as a policy of communal structure is childish idealism.

I've talked about this enough times. It's boring and I find your opinions to be just as empty as all the others before when it comes to forcing your pacifist views on humanity which has NEVER been pacifist.

Voluntaryism/Anarchy is an individual culture. Not a communal culture. It is the expression of hyepr-individualism and the wet dream of tyrants and technocrats as it leaves the masses easily in the grip of their control.

Good luck with your ideal freedom.

Everything Voluntary Jack's avatar

Well that response is very adult of you.

The only community a responsibly free person wants to be part of is one that practices the NAP which all governments and almost all other collectives do not.

I am not a “pacifist” and such an oxymoron as you wrote of someone forcing pacificism on another is another example of your confused, contradictory thinking.

And you might want a spell checker along with editing your thoughts to be less contradictory.

Bad luck with your real and immoral Statism.